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A "Hall of Shame" to expose cars parked illegally
in disability or mobility parking spaces.
A "Hall of Shame" to expose cars parked illegally
in disability or mobility parking spaces.
DP9OGM (disabled tags)
Chrysler?
Metallic beige
. McDonough
, Ga., USA
1 May 2007
Noon
This Chrysler, plate DP9OGM, was parked illegally in a disability parking space in McDonough, Georgia, on 1 May, 2007.
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Accessible, Disability, Disability Parking, Georgia, Infraction, McDonough, Mobility, Parking, Violation
Webmaster's Note:
While this car has disability license plates, they are still parking illegally, over the striped access aisle. They are in effect rendering two parking space completely unusable. One would think that disabled drivers know better.Comment by: Webmaster
The taxi company was contacted and their general manager is going to look into it. He said:
"If you have any additional information on the date and time of this incident I would welcome the receipt of that so we can identify the driver concerned at the time and address the matter with them directly.
Comment by: Webmaster
I may not buy more in one go, but I guarantee you I spend as much, if not more, than the average punter does in a week.
Comment by: Dirk
By that i mean they have few issues pushing around large food carts.
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I forgot to add that she has pulled too far forward blocking those spaces as well. I had to park against the curb that day to let my ramp down. When the pic. was taken, she was in the car. She appeared to be fine... just fat!!
She appeared to be fine… just fat!!
I'm sorry someone wasn't disabled enough for you. In the future if someone with a non-visable disability like advanced heart disease or diabetes mellitus shows up, I recommend carrying a chainsaw to lob a few of their limbs off. That way you'll feel better knowing that all disabilities must be plainly visible.
Of course I realize there are those situations. Hence the usage of ''appeared'' to give a touch of doubt. Are you disabled Joe? Do you use a rampvan to exit your vehicle? Do you live in the real world of disibility where Dr's give out placards like they are candy? Have you ever witnessed the elderly parking in the 1st set of HC spots at the mall to do their daily ''miles'' inside the mall? I will bet the farm that 75% or more of disabled placards are bogus. Apparantly by your tone, you support her choice of parking. Time to wake up and get real.
DEAR JOE:
It is perfectly reasonable for people with "non-visible" disabilities to be eligible for disabled parking permits, as long as their doctors sign the application. I'll be the first to admit that advanced heart disease or diabetes mellitus may make someone eligible for such a permit, but it is their responsibility to apply for one.
Jeff, you're trying to justify your comment, don't bother.
I know from your comments what point you're trying to make. This isn't about me or my disabilities, this isn't even about parking across 2 spaces, this is about your bias on how someone 'appeared' to be.
You are prejudiced against those who might not be the same as you.
Poor Joe. How's life on Fantasy Island? Can't answer my simple questions? I feel just fine making a blanket or as you state, bias statement about abusers as most are bogus. Do you make an effort to bring awareness to abusers? Should we just turn our head the other way and give up? What are your resolutions to this matter? I will say that, IMO a wheeler needs those spots before anyone else.. solely based on the fact that extra room is needed for ramps and breaking/putting together chairs. Hell, I'd park at the opposite end of the lot if the spots were van accessible for my ramp.
You want to know the resolution? Repeal the ADA to start. It's a bunch of feel-good do-too-much legislation that is designed to encompass as many groups as possible to justify its existence.
Second, how about asking the stores to accommodate instead of forcing them into a formula of x handicapped spots per y parking spots? Do you really think any store would want to turn away paying customers?
Third, stop projecting your anger to the world. Assholes always get what they want in the short run and exactly what they deserve in the long run.
The answer does not lie with the ADA. The ADA and DOJ writes the statutes. It's up to local law enforcement to ENFORCE, ENFORCE, ENFORCE!! Look at it this way, without police writing tix for speeders and being present on interstates, everyone would speed. They don't catch everyone, but their presence and fines deter greatly. Sounds asif you hold some hostility towards the ADA? The problem needs to be cut at the source.. primary doctors. Too many placards are being given out frivalously. If we control and patrol it here, things will eventually get better. In certain parts of, I think Calif, not only is there a unit made for looking for offenders, they actually call in the registration number issued. If the vehicle does not match, they wait and make sure the person then will match the placard.
On your second you have a point. More spots are def. needed esp. in large gathering locales such as arenas, stadiums and the like. The 1 to 25 ratio for HC spots may work in certain lots, but with the number of disabled ppl. growing and the elderly living longer, more spots are needed. Although, if the above were to be done properly, spots would possibly be enough.
Anger? Maybe some. But def. not against the world, just against those that choose to abuse.
I work in a large retail establishment and can see both sides of this arguement. The bottom line for me is that there are different degrees of disability and unfortunately, unless permits are issued in degrees, this is a common problem. From my perspective it frequently IS elderly 'mall walkers' (who very well my have heart problems) who take up all the disabled spots while our more severly disabled customers (quadraplegics for example) get no spot. I would have to agree that perhaps the definition of disability is too broad.
I used to work in parking enforcement. Had I seen this vehicle, even with the disabled plates, it would have been cited.
Had they appealed the ticket & went to court, they would have lost.
Many disabled drivers that do not required specialized vehicles are quite ignorant of the access aisle violation.
I just wanted to leave a reply, not so much about this incident, just a general comment, because this poster stated that the woman was "just fat".
You never know what a persons disability is, so, as long as they have the handicapped sign, please be kind.
I have a daughter that is 7 years old, she has autism, although she has no "physical" disabilities, she has a brain disorder, the reason we have a handicapped sign is because she does not have "common sense", we park in handicapped because she is a "runner" meaning, she will run directly into oncomming traffic, the closer to the door we are, the better, it is for her safety. I can't tell you how many times parking close has saved her life.
I dont think that anyone should park like that.If she was truly disabled then she would understand the struggles that others have and would not have taken four spots.
And to make it worse this person is driving on the same road that we all do.
If I had a "runner" I would first not take it to the store and second get a leach how does parking close save her she is loose in the store?I dont think people or pets should be aloud ou twhen they can not be controlled what about the rest of us and our kids who get hurt and scaired.I bet you use it when shes not there also. I think everyone should get off this mans back and get a life.I would be pissed if some fat slob did that to me.
It appears that the issue in this comments section has gone from what is right or wrong to a matter of perspective and attitude.
Maybe the problems we have today are because we can't communicate in a civil manner. This morning, a HC space was taken up in front of a restaurant by two motorcyles. Both of the cycles had handicapped plates. There were actually people talking about it in the restaurant..they were unhappy and verbal even though it had not directly affected them. When the two men who owned the motorcycles got up to leave, it was obvious how both of them were physically disabled in their legs. I heard the woman at the table next to me say that she was sorry for thinking the way she did and would have to withdraw her comments. Would we all be better off if we started with that attitude instead of finished with it?
As for the comments to Shawn about her daughter, how unkind can a person be? The saddest part of nicole's remarks to Shawn is that she indicates she has children who will no doubt be adults with the same attitude as their mother because of learning that attitude. As an educator for 25 years, I have found the children with the harshest outlooks on life get them from their parents. Sadly, the parents may have inherited their bitterness from their parents as well. We need a return to values in this country.
I agree that violators of the HC parking should be made to pay for their breaking of a law just as any other traffic violation. There is a need for closer monitoring and issuing of tickets... The problem may need to be corrected there.
If you go to the page that says Maricopa County, you will see what we have happen here where I live. The Sheriff's department violates the law too....hard to enforce for others if they don't enforce themslves.
Let's be supportive and pro-active, not degrading and placing blame but not doing anything about it.
For anyone interested in the Maricopa news story, check out these links.
http://www.kpho.com/news/13263383/detail.html
http://www.azcentral.com/phpAPP/multimedia/flash.php?path=rtmp://azcentral.com/news/0504mcso10pm&HTTP_REFERER=http://www.azcentral.com/12news/
Sorry if the links didn't hi-lite.
Jeff, that news story is cool, thanks for the link.
The woman who contacted the News station also had submitted the photo to this site:
http://caughtya.org/united-states/2007/05/sheriffs-deputy-uses-hc-spot.html
NP Webmaster. Myself and the woman that posted that pic. are on the same spinal cord site. I think a few more pics will generate from there as we have several threads about HC parking.
Regarding Diane's input, it's just this sort of unreasoned "reasoning" that underscores the miserable state of education in our country today. You've been an "educator" for 25 years and think someone not exercising reasonable discipline over their autistic daughter should be able to use that as excuse to have HC parking privileges to compensate for their remission. Wake up and smell the venality, Diane.
The OP has been reasonable throughout this discussion.
After reading some of these messages, I've come to a conclusion. Most of your attidutes suck.
You're cripped, tough. Life sucks. Stop inconviencing the rest of the population with your usless legislation.
How's that for a bad attitude?
Dear Joe, thank you for your most constructive criticism. Perhaps some day you'll come to experience the daily frustration of a non-accessible society.
Thank you Joe for that uplifting post. My life is far from sucking.. sounds asif yours does. What a change in your stance on legislation, give us a break. Maybe one day you will join us, but if not, piss off.
Webmaster, your root problems don't stem from society. Stop deluding yourself.
Jeff, the ADA and similar laws just makes the disabled a victim.
And the whole point of my messages were that just because you don't have an outwardly physical handicap doesn't mean you aren't disabled. And like I said before, yes, it sucks to be in a wheelchair (and that's an understatement). It also sucks to not be able to move over 20 feet without experiencing severe angina.
But don't you dare try tell me that one group deserves special treatment over the other. Either you create a system where you encompass the majority of the disabled or you leave it up to the individual stores.
Joe, I am not deluding myself. I do believe that the major problems we have stem from a non-accessible society. It's not my invention, and I'm not the first one to think of it. "Social Model of disability", it's called.
As for preferential treatment, visible/non-visible disabilities, I couldn't agree more. I wrote something about this very thing last August:
http://caughtya.org/drive-by/2006/08/dont-throw-baby-out-with-the-bathwater.html
The purpose of this site is NOT to judge whether or not someone is entitled to the parking placard they have. We are not medical staff (well, most of us anyway). We can only go by whether or not someone is displaying a permit when they park in the disability parking space, or, whether they are parking properly or not. Someone with a parking permit parking over the access aisle is just as much at fault as someone parking without the permit.
The purpose of this site is NOT to judge whether or not someone is entitled to the parking placard they have.
She appeared to be fine… just fat!!
Do you live in the real world of disibility where Dr’s give out placards like they are candy?
how does parking close save her...I bet you use it when shes not there
The purpose of the site is to pretend to be doing a service while instead giving people a place to play 'I'm a bigger victim than you'.
But don’t you dare try tell me that one group deserves special treatment over the other.
You lost me here Joe. When did I say that? Just because I believe that 75% of the ppl. that park in HC spots do not need to, doesn't mean that one group deserves over another.
Do you live in the real world of disibility where Dr’s give out placards like they are candy?
My above comment is a fact. No need to ask me to prove it, you know it is. Cut down on Dr's just giving them out and more spots become available. Another prob. is the expiration of the placards and ppl. still using them. Proper enforcement and calling in the registration number will in turn free up spaces.
Jeff, the ADA and similar laws just makes the disabled a victim.
I'd love to hear more on this please.
Their parking proves they qualify for handicap plates. They are so handicap they can't park right!